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A Friendly, Helpful Bureaucracy--An Oxymoron--No, No, No--not in Santa Elena, the Coastal Capitol!

I had a unique experience yesterday.  Larry has written in his blog that you can get all kinds of discounts if you are over 65, and basically have the "Tercero Edad" designation.  His blog is very helpful for old and new arrivals, and the info that he presented was new to me.

Sooooo, I took our property tax bill and hotfooted it down to our local guv-mint HQ, and began to ask questions about how I might get some reduction in the amount owed by being such an old F--t...

I have found that being sort of old looking lets me kind of walk into various offices and ask questions, so I did...

First off, I asked my questions to the man in front of the office of the Chief Tax guy...He listen politely, and had me follow him outside, around a bunch of other offices, over to the window that collects the dough...

The man behind the screen took my info and made a bunch of notes on his computer keyboard (Our province has state of the art interlocked Muni computers...not like Cuenca, where they are always on the blink, it seems).  My name popped up, and we determined that I also owed for 2009--and the grand total for two years of beach front property--a whopping $121.00.  I told him this seemed like a lot and what could he do to reduce the amount, since I was so old...

He couldn't leave the money cage, so he called over one of the security guards, and had him lead me around and around to the "Chief Financial Officer" offices.  A very nice lady took my Cedula, and determined that, indeed I was old...so she also made a bunch of notes in my account in the State Computer, and told me to follow her over to another office, where she presented the nice lady there with more docs that she had printed. 

This nice lady told me to sit down, because she had a two inch think file that she was just finishing up.  In about ten minutes, she began working on mine, and then I saw that she had signed it, then taken it into another office in her area for a signature, then she left her building and I saw her walking into more offices.

The long and short of all of this is that there are many signatures necessary, and these lovely ladies personally got them all for me.

The top of my new proclamation looks like this.  I am putting it up in two sections because there is some personal info on it that probably shouldn't be on the internet.

 

Now, I am leaving out specific references to Me, our property, My ID numbers, and Valuations, but here is the rest of it.  You will notice that exonerations almost means the same in English...

 

Altogether, about a dozen people helped me out with this delclaration.  The Tax that I had to pay Dropped from $121.00 to Seventeen Bucks!

If you wish to see the opposite type of treatment, just look back to the description I made about when we visited the embassy of the good ol' U S of A...

 

Posted on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 05:59AM by Registered CommenterBob & Roxanne | Comments6 Comments

Reader Comments (6)

bob... now this story is why you got the reporting job and the rest of us are waiting for that hot Texas sun to attack in a few months. Really, this is the kind of info I really like reading about. Thanks mucho. el L

May 19, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterEl L

Really? you avoided paying 121 dollars for property tax in a country that has happily welcome you and taken care of your beach house? I am appalled. I was really impressed by your sensitivity to your host country until now. Good luck and good karma to you.

May 19, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJH

Hi JH...Let me tell you that paying property taxes is not where the money comes from, when it comes to running the guv-mint...
Most of the taxes from the citizens come from the 12 percent sales tax, and most of the other things that property taxes pay for in the States are added to our electric bill...such as fire and such.
The taxes we pay on our electric bill are 600 percent higher than those we pay on our property taxes.
So...we get to participate where it counts...
Thanks for caring about our Karma...

May 21, 2010 | Registered CommenterBob & Roxanne

Hi Larry...thanks for the good vibes...this story was intended to show just how wonderful this country is--even tho our State Department disses it most of the time...

May 21, 2010 | Registered CommenterBob & Roxanne

Bob; You got to have the Cedula to reduce your property taxes/ I do not have one yet but I am over 65-What are the other benefits that guy discussed? can you please share with us? Thanks and I really enjoy reading your Blog! you guys are woderful couple and I will like to meet with you when I revisit my Manta Condo---Regs--Yusuf

May 30, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterYusuf

Yusuf...
Thanks for writing...
I am not sure about needing a cedula, but you get reduced fares on inside Ecuador flying, you get to go to the front of a lot of lines, especially in banks, you get reduced rates at just about any government type of park. Just lately I took my papers down the the electrical and water companies and they said that I will get a reduction, but they did not know how much. I will drop you a line when I know. Thanks for the nice words--give us a holler when you are in town...

Bob & Roxanne

June 7, 2010 | Registered CommenterBob & Roxanne

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